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Posted: Thu, Nov 03 2011, 5:33 pm Post subject: re: Did you take Dina Friedmans parentng class?Share the wea |
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| Does her technique involve charts? I'm terrible with charts.
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Posted: Thu, Nov 03 2011, 6:11 pm Post subject: Re: re: Did you take Dina Friedmans parentng class?Share the |
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| de_goldy wrote: | | farm wrote: | | anon wrote: | | farm wrote: | | anon wrote: |
The main issue I've seen with participants is that some people have a hard time keeping up with the classes or lacking the energy to try to implement what they learned. |
This is exactly what I find so puzzling. Why is 'everyone' head over heels with this course but I don't see any changes in their parenting methods or differences in their children? As someone who has never listened to a single one of her courses, I am purely judging from afar. What I see is a woman who speaks to the heart of Jewish mothers everywhere, with warm and wise advice, giving them an emotional high. What I don't see is any practical outcome. Where are the happier, more cooperative, or better disciplined children? Why the disconnect? Can someone please give a specific concrete example of a problem they were having with their child and how taking this course solved it? |
Who is everyone? I know of only a small handful of people in real life who didn't have the "zitzfleish" to take the class seriously. For everyone else, the class has been a process. And it will continue to be a process, a life-long journey, for as long as they're raising their children. How do you know that all these mothers don't feel a difference in themselves and in their home? Just because the children seem the same on the outside to you, doesn't mean a difference hasn't been made.
For me personally, certain changes have been permanently implemented in my home, and those changes are highly positive. My children and I are much happier because of it. However, there are many things I haven't fully implemented yet (or implemented at all) for various reasons. But I can't tell you how much peace it gives me, knowing that the answers are there when I'm ready to access them. It's very stressful thinking that you have "no idea" how to handle a situation with your child...and it's very calming to know that you have a place to go to for answers. |
You just proved my point yet again. I asked for specific, concrete examples and you gave me a long-winded fluffy answer. I am not trying to say this course is horrible or a rip off or a waste of time, I am simply pointing out that based on this and similiar threads, "everyone" is head-over-heels about this woman and this course, yet "noone" knows where her material comes from, nor is anyone willing to explain how their lives and the lives of their children were changed for the better by this course. Why am I the only one who is voicing this concern? |
I completely agree with you farm and have been wondering this ever since posters on this site started mentioning her courses and how life changing it is. I have yet to see a single person give a concrete example of how they dealt with any given situation "before" and how they now deal with them. In fact, I am surprised so many people seem to sign up to this course without much info at all! |
Dina Friedman's course consists of all the information you need in order to parent your child. For $500, you wouldn't want only half the information, right? So yes, it's a lot of information to digest, but you need all of it, in order to get the full picture, in order to start parenting properly. That might mean that implement a little of everything as you're taking the course, stick with the most important things at any given time, and then go back and review the classes when you need to implement more, as necessary. The course is 35 weeks, but the work is the work of a lifetime. As parents, we need to constantly be working. And yes, those 35 weeks helps for that lifetimes work.
If you'd like a list of some of the changes that I have implemented from this course, let me know and I will post iyH.
The part of the course that dramatically changed my life, is in fact personal. If you wish to PM me, you may. _________________ Really Awesome Mom!
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Posted: Thu, Nov 03 2011, 6:13 pm Post subject: Re: re: Did you take Dina Friedmans parentng class?Share the |
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| Isher wrote: | | Does her technique involve charts? I'm terrible with charts. | No.
There is only one chart, used for the purpose of teaching your child how to make the right choices, and it does not involve points or prizes.
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Posted: Thu, Nov 03 2011, 6:18 pm Post subject: re: Did you take Dina Friedmans parentng class?Share the wea |
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| ra_mom - every time you post about the course I am getting more excited about it. I am going to sign up over the weekend. Thanks so much for posting. I'm also going to PM you.
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Posted: Thu, Nov 03 2011, 11:25 pm Post subject: re: Did you take Dina Friedmans parentng class?Share the wea |
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I took Dina's course and really loved it, though I did find it hard to keep up. I actually finished listening to the classes on the MP3/CD's which I was able to listen to more easily during my commute.
What I loved about Dina's classes is that it's NOT just about how to create perfect soldiers who obey their mother's every command. It's about developing emotionally healthy people who will have the tools that they need to deal with life. It's also about developing a better relationship with your children
For those who want more concrete examples...... A lot of learning to be a better parent is not only on what is seen on the outside. It's also how you feel INSIDE while you're parenting, because inevitably that affects your relationship with your kids.
For example, I have a daughter who when she gets upset, can really scream, yell and be very intimidating. (Looking at me, you would never think I am a wimp. I b'h have a healthy self esteem). However, it creates a lot of stress in the house as well as internally. I wasn't sure exactly how to handle these tantrums.
Using Dina's techniques, I have a game plan:
1) I use imagery techniques to imagine that I am strong like a mountain and I won't be intimidated or back down from what I said. I can stay feeling centered and calm
2)I know that if it's a consequence that I gave her that she's throwing a tantrum about - I know that my consequence is fair and appropriate based on the way that Dina taught how to properly discipline. I don't want to go into the details, but it is a very logical, reasonable and respectful way to appropriately discipline misbehavior. (She is not a proponent of harsh discipline). This way I'm not filled with self doubt and guilt.
3) She has taught me that it's okay for me to take myself away from the conflict when I'm done with it.
The above has helped me through a number of situations, and b'h we have far fewer 'tantrums' because my dd knows that I discipline fairly (at least most of the time - I'm not perfect.)
Truthfully, my dh, who is a good guy and willing to learn some techniques, tends to struggle more with this dd than me. Not because I'm a better person (he is the better half), but because I spent a year listening to her classes and b'h have learned something!
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Posted: Fri, Nov 04 2011, 12:14 am Post subject: re: Did you take Dina Friedmans parenting class?Share the we |
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| I am considering taking the course. However, I listened to the sample lecture and its not very clear. Are the actual lectures clearer? Secondly, I see she has two plans one for $250 the second one for $500 which includes ,One-Hour Classes,Detailed Handbook,Dina’s Voicemail,33 LIVE, Interactive Question/Answer Sessions,Information Line:,20 Bonus Topics and Online Forum. If you took the course which one would you suggest and why?
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Posted: Fri, Nov 04 2011, 12:26 am Post subject: re: Did you take Dina Friedmans parenting class?Share the we |
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| just wanted to add although it might be a lot of money to put out at once you most definitely get your money's worth besides a great course its very thorough and not a minute is wasted from the hour
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Posted: Fri, Nov 04 2011, 7:32 am Post subject: re: Did you take Dina Friedmans parenting class?Share the we |
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| I signed up last year--but could never keep up
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Posted: Fri, Nov 04 2011, 10:24 am Post subject: re: Did you take Dina Friedmans parenting class?Share the we |
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Thank you for the vote of confidence guys.
In fact, one big push for this course is that my DH has expressed interest in listening in here and there. He also loves his kids to pieces, but finds himself non-plussed by some situations, especially with our youngest. However actually getting himself out to take a course (there are some in Lakewood for the DH's) is pushing it....listening to a lecture on the phone is more his speed.
So I'm looking forward to this, and the benefits will hopefully be double. _________________ Chayalle
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Posted: Fri, Nov 04 2011, 10:56 am Post subject: re: Did you take Dina Friedmans parenting class?Share the we |
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| I don't want to be negative or challange anyone's opinion. I just really want to understand. After flipping through this post I was almost ready to sign up. But then I listened to the sample and I feel like there is no way I can listen to 35 hours of this. I could barely get through 17 minutes. I found the information very useless and obvious and boring. I used to listen to Mrs. Yaroslovis and found it intellectual and stimulating and learned alot as a parent. This Dina Friedman link I found blah, and not practical. It's great to have a million reasons why your teen wants to take revenge. Now what? I felt like it was so one dimentional. Does anyone feel like this? I fear being let down if I take this course.
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amother you were listening to ONE sample lecture out of 35! It's a build up. First, a foundation, then practical skills. this wont be the first lecture in her series, nor the fifth... it's a process. _________________ http://www.autism-parenting.com
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| Basimcha wrote: | | I am considering taking the course. However, I listened to the sample lecture and its not very clear. Are the actual lectures clearer? |
I haven't listened to the samples this year, but when I was considering signing up, I also thought the sample lecture was very unclear. The real class, though, is completely fine, I had no trouble with it.
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| amother wrote: | | I don't want to be negative or challange anyone's opinion. I just really want to understand. After flipping through this post I was almost ready to sign up. But then I listened to the sample and I feel like there is no way I can listen to 35 hours of this. I could barely get through 17 minutes. I found the information very useless and obvious and boring. I used to listen to Mrs. Yaroslovis and found it intellectual and stimulating and learned alot as a parent. This Dina Friedman link I found blah, and not practical. It's great to have a million reasons why your teen wants to take revenge. Now what? I felt like it was so one dimentional. Does anyone feel like this? I fear being let down if I take this course. |
Did the clip discuss what you should do about your veangeful teenager? Of course she discusses the "now what", but she precedes it with the reasons underlying the behavior. If you thought the clip was boring though, that's definitely not a good sign for you. I enjoyed the clips that I listened to, when I was considering signing up.
Btw, who is Mrs. Yaroslovis? Is that the phone parenting course with the woman from California?
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Posted: Fri, Nov 04 2011, 2:56 pm Post subject: re: Did you take Dina Friedmans parenting class?Share the we |
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I'm a Jewishmom.com fan too, and Chana Jenny Weisberg has been touting the course as well. Now that I've verified here, I signed up (for the $250 option). I'm now taking Rabbi Aryeh Nivin's personal development chabura course - which CJW also highly recommended - and am very glad I did.
But if she keeps recommending courses, I'm going to need to add more hours to the day and more money to the bank! _________________ “For 30 years she served nothing but leftovers. The original meal was never found.”
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| imala wrote: | I took Dina's course and really loved it, though I did find it hard to keep up. I actually finished listening to the classes on the MP3/CD's which I was able to listen to more easily during my commute.
What I loved about Dina's classes is that it's NOT just about how to create perfect soldiers who obey their mother's every command. It's about developing emotionally healthy people who will have the tools that they need to deal with life. It's also about developing a better relationship with your children
For those who want more concrete examples...... A lot of learning to be a better parent is not only on what is seen on the outside. It's also how you feel INSIDE while you're parenting, because inevitably that affects your relationship with your kids.
For example, I have a daughter who when she gets upset, can really scream, yell and be very intimidating. (Looking at me, you would never think I am a wimp. I b'h have a healthy self esteem). However, it creates a lot of stress in the house as well as internally. I wasn't sure exactly how to handle these tantrums.
Using Dina's techniques, I have a game plan:
1) I use imagery techniques to imagine that I am strong like a mountain and I won't be intimidated or back down from what I said. I can stay feeling centered and calm
2)I know that if it's a consequence that I gave her that she's throwing a tantrum about - I know that my consequence is fair and appropriate based on the way that Dina taught how to properly discipline. I don't want to go into the details, but it is a very logical, reasonable and respectful way to appropriately discipline misbehavior. (She is not a proponent of harsh discipline). This way I'm not filled with self doubt and guilt.
3) She has taught me that it's okay for me to take myself away from the conflict when I'm done with it.
The above has helped me through a number of situations, and b'h we have far fewer 'tantrums' because my dd knows that I discipline fairly (at least most of the time - I'm not perfect.)
Truthfully, my dh, who is a good guy and willing to learn some techniques, tends to struggle more with this dd than me. Not because I'm a better person (he is the better half), but because I spent a year listening to her classes and b'h have learned something!
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