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PostPosted: Wed, Oct 26 2011, 12:00 am    Post subject: re: Can she marry a Cohen?
 
Old thread but...I have a friend who is planning on marrying a Kohen. Her father never did convert. They are aware of this issue as almost all the Rabbi's in the community do not want to marry them. Am I allowed to go and participate at this wedding or is it like attending a intermarriage wedding?
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PostPosted: Wed, Oct 26 2011, 2:16 pm    Post subject: re: Can she marry a Cohen?
 
For the record, the issue regarding the daughter of a Jewish woman and non-Jewish man is a topic of much rabbinical debate, and does NOT have a clear cut answer. I happen to have a non-Jewish father, and my husband is a Kohen. We did not discover this issue until we were already engaged...and had to go to the head rav of our community to attempt to have our marriage allowed. This well respected rav told us that our marriage was permitted according to R' Ovadia Yosef and, since my husband is Sephardi, we could rely on this opinion. Had he been Ashkenazi, it would most likely not been permitted. And, had we just started dating, it would have been discouraged.

Anyone facing this issue should really consult a very knowledgeable rav rather than trying to posken for themselves.
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PostPosted: Wed, Oct 26 2011, 2:29 pm    Post subject: re: Can she marry a Cohen?
 
I was the one who posed the question. I do not think they are interested in finding a posek, they feel betrayed by the community and family and are hardly observant despite his frum upbringing. They said they will just find a conservative Rabbi to marry them. I was asking more for myself as a friend, am I able to participate in this wedding?
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PostPosted: Wed, Oct 26 2011, 3:22 pm    Post subject: re: Can she marry a Cohen?
 
Well that's really a shame. As for you, I would ask a rav. It's not considered intermarriage, as they are both jews...and it's not even a Torah-prohibited marriage for a Kohen...so it's sort of a gray area. Good luck.
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PostPosted: Thu, Oct 27 2011, 4:22 am    Post subject: re: Can she marry a Cohen?
 
Isn't this Tsits Eliezer who allows (if they already happened?) marriage between Cohen and DD of non Jew?
I still think finding an Orthodox rav, even very "modern", who will do it will be very difficult because of the consequences on the children.
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PostPosted: Thu, Oct 27 2011, 6:21 am    Post subject: Re: re: Can she marry a Cohen?
 
Ruchel wrote:
Isn't this Tsits Eliezer who allows (if they already happened?) marriage between Cohen and DD of non Jew?
I still think finding an Orthodox rav, even very "modern", who will do it will be very difficult because of the consequences on the children.


What are the consequences on the children? AFAIK, the boys would not be Kohanim and the girls would not be allowed to marry Kohanim. I'm fairly sure they would not be mamzarim.

I'm not an expert but there are marriages that should not be contracted m'lhatchila but are acceptable b'dievad. I think a Kohan and divorcee works that way.

These are complicated questions, need to be answered by a Rav and something tells me different people will receive different psak.
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PostPosted: Thu, Oct 27 2011, 6:23 am    Post subject: re: Can she marry a Cohen?
 
You are right about the consequences. But it is likely to lead to very painful situations for the boys to be constantly mistaken for Cohanim and have to either lie or set the truth... and to not enjoy this beautiful heritage (my frei anti religious Cohen cousin married a suitable woman for this reason! lol).
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PostPosted: Thu, Oct 27 2011, 7:33 am    Post subject: Re: re: Can she marry a Cohen?
 
Ruchel wrote:
You are right about the consequences. But it is likely to lead to very painful situations for the boys to be constantly mistaken for Cohanim and have to either lie or set the truth... and to not enjoy this beautiful heritage (my frei anti religious Cohen cousin married a suitable woman for this reason! lol).


It's not the end of the world. My DH is a Kohain and we adopted our kids so obviously our son is not Kohain. Not a big deal. It's (to me) a bigger deal how I will explain to DD that she can't marry a Kohain without making her feel like a second-class Jews.

I know a family where the father is a chalal and his daughters can't marry Kohanim. They are a lovely frum family. Probably more widespread than we think.
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PostPosted: Thu, Oct 27 2011, 8:03 am    Post subject: re: Can she marry a Cohen?
 
Adoption is not a machlokes or a mess up (depending on the posek). It is very different.

Different people are prevented from marrying some categories. No one is inferior. You can even tell your dd she is lucky that Hashem gave her some guideline to find her bashert!
I have been told a virgin gioret should insist to have giorta AND betulta on her ketuba, for fairness.

It seems among some edot (or families?) bnot Cohen also do not marry male converts. I discovered it as shadchanit.
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