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| Chayalle |
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Posted: Tue, Aug 16 2011, 9:47 am Post subject: Re: re: Do I have to do something for my sons Upsherin? |
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| penguin wrote: | | Whether upsherin is your minhag or not there is a tradition which, I think, cuts across all spectra, to wrap the child in a tallis & bring him to cheder. Your DH could ask your Rov if it should be done? |
Not at all - AFAIK this is a chassidishe minhag. My family has chassidish roots and does this, but DH never heard of it before.
DH's family doesn't do big upsherin parties. Only one SIL (who likes to make big parties, and does it because her family has that minhag) made upsherins. The rest maybe did something small at home, like a birthday cake at supper.
I don't have boys yet - so it's never been an issue here .
Edited to add - many people who have the minhag to cut hair at 3, don't make big parties along with it. One has nothing to do with the other (as some posts implied). _________________ Chayalle
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Posted: Tue, Aug 16 2011, 9:53 am Post subject: Re: re: Do I have to do something for my sons Upsherin? |
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| penguin wrote: | | Whether upsherin is your minhag or not there is a tradition which, I think, cuts across all spectra, to wrap the child in a tallis & bring him to cheder. Your DH could ask your Rov if it should be done? |
Our rov says it's irrelevant today. Once children were at home all the time and this was the first time they went out somewhere, so they were wrapped in a tallis so they wouldn't see anything tamei. Also they were taken to cheder and began to learn there everyday.
I don't know about other places, but here people take their sons on their third birthday to cheder, then send them back to playgroup/ gan until next Elul (at least) - just confusing for the child. _________________ "The problem begins with... their political hangers oners... such as Anat Hoffman. She is a davener like I am a chinese belly dancer." (FS)
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Posted: Tue, Aug 16 2011, 9:58 am Post subject: |
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I think its a nice occasion-more then just a birthday party or a girl turning three. If you have patience you can just serve cake and drinks and invite the grandparents-if there are any around town....and let them celebrate. _________________ Sunday social program forming in Brooklyn for children with social delays. Pm me for more info
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Posted: Tue, Aug 16 2011, 10:16 am Post subject: re: Do I have to do something for my sons Upsherin? |
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No. I know people who make huge bashes and people who just invite the family.
3 year olds would probably be happier with a small thing.
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Posted: Tue, Aug 16 2011, 11:16 am Post subject: Re: Do I have to do something for my sons Upsherin? |
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Does he go to playgroup? Are you having a family party?
I vote for Having Something, I just think you and your dh should be on board with what you decide.
I don't know what your son's hair loooks like, but I would not have waited until my ds was 3 years old to cut it if I didn't "have" to, that's for sure!
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Posted: Tue, Aug 16 2011, 6:32 pm Post subject: |
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Ask your usual Rav.
I like Chaya F's method.
Next stop, Bar Mitzvah, so have a little private fun, at a modest small scale that will genuinely please you. It's educational for the boy, and a bit of milestone for you, Mommy. So enjoy life.
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Posted: Tue, Aug 16 2011, 7:11 pm Post subject: Re: re: Do I have to do something for my sons Upsherin? |
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| shalhevet wrote: | | penguin wrote: | | Whether upsherin is your minhag or not there is a tradition which, I think, cuts across all spectra, to wrap the child in a tallis & bring him to cheder. Your DH could ask your Rov if it should be done? |
Our rov says it's irrelevant today. Once children were at home all the time and this was the first time they went out somewhere, so they were wrapped in a tallis so they wouldn't see anything tamei. Also they were taken to cheder and began to learn there everyday.
I don't know about other places, but here people take their sons on their third birthday to cheder, then send them back to playgroup/ gan until next Elul (at least) - just confusing for the child. |
some people do this at 5 when the kid is more mature. We did it it the day our sons started school. (they were about 4 1/2.)
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