SCD Diet

Posted: Wed, Jun 15 2011, 2:37 pm Post subject: SCD Diet

Hi my Doctor is recommending the diet for me I was wondering what people do for shabbos with challah. And just to get some encouragement.

Thanks

Posted: Wed, Jun 15 2011, 2:42 pm Post subject: re: SCD Diet

First of all, Refuah Shelaima and good luck! There is a whole SCD world out there. Get support. It's a wonderful healing diet.
People on the SCD diet do not eat Challah on Shabbos.
The only time grains are consumed are on Seder night - some Matza, and the effects can be catastrophic. The only reason people eat the Matza is because they are mechuyav that night.
It's a healing diet, and carbs can undo all the healing.
(If you miss the Challah and dips, there are some good almond flour alternatives.)

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The Scd diet is a wonderful diet. It definitely has helped me a lot. It takes a lot of commitment but it is all worth it. Digestivewellness.com is a great SCD source for things you may need. Feel better and if you need any advice you can always PM me.

Posted: Thu, Jun 23 2011, 11:50 am Post subject: re: SCD Diet

I asked my rov, who said, "so don't eat challah!" like I was nuts for considering even a tiny bite Smile

a lot of people drink extra grape juice. ask your rov what to do. there are a number of us on here, and you can search for scd for some nice recipes. you're welcome to pm me for support, I found it very helpful to pm people when I started out.

feel good!

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Posted: Thu, Jun 23 2011, 12:34 pm Post subject: re: SCD Diet

I use kedem organic. in the beginning, I diluted it because I couldn't handle it straight. after a few months, I was able to take it full strength.

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I am reading about this diet and what I can't understand (if someone could please explain) WHy is meat allowed???!?!?!
It is so high in acid, so hard to break down, sits in your stomach for hours, and YES CAUSES INTESTINAL FLAIR UPS....I can't understand who in there right mind would say meat is good when you have any kind of digestive disorder?!?!

Posted: Thu, Jun 23 2011, 10:19 pm Post subject: re: SCD Diet

Another amother here.
I just started the diet this week, im actually following the 'introductory diet' now. I am wracking my brains what to do with challah or what alternative there is out there.... was thinking of eating spelt matzah (easier to digest than wheat, and no yeast/sugar...) please keep in mind, no dr told me to follow this diet. Just a lot of friends recommended it to me and I read up on it so I figured it would heal my indigestion issues. so, I would like to know if it will reverse the little (if any) progress the diet has made?
also, I have been having cravings like terrible for NORMAL food or something other than protiens (even veggies Shocked

) what can I do to take away the terrible cravings???

Posted: Thu, Jun 23 2011, 10:22 pm Post subject: re: SCD Diet

this diet is all about protiens, fruits and veg.
the diet works wonders for me, but after being on it for a while, I get so sick of protien, I am currently off. ( gined back so much weight, when on the diet, you lose because everything is cut out...)
lots of hatzlacha

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and now that I am reading more, im wondering even more. Onions are allowed. hu? onions are sooooooo hard to digest. People with colitis and crohns SHOULD NOT eat onions. and the amount of protein that this diet allows is boggling my mind. Where is the raw fruits and veggies? I just am having a hard time seeing this diet as the ultimate healthy way to eat. Skip the sugar and whites yeh...but I think this is just not the end all for eating healthy. sorry JM2C!

oh and the diet makes it seem like this is how everyone feels good. NOT TRUE! Not everyone feels good from eggs or other foods that this diet is VERY high in. People with crohns and colitis should avoid dairy...yet this diet really pushes for it. Some people need certain grains like quinoa or ezekial bread and do very well on it. Maybe someone could shed some light on my confusion. Confused

Posted: Thu, Jun 23 2011, 10:28 pm Post subject: Re: re: SCD Diet

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The dairy is lactose free yogurt and select cheeses.
As for the foods that might be triggers, that's why introducing new foods is done veeery slowly and systematically.
It's good to have an IRL mentor when starting out.

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The Breaking the Viscous Cycle book has a chapter at the beginning describing the biology behind the diet. That might be helpful to read to understand why certain foods are allowed and others are not.

For my daughter's situation, her focus was on bacteria - monosaccharides are digested quickly and don't let the bacteria to feed on them. Disaccharidies and polysaccharides digest slowly and the bacteria can feed on them.

Posted: Fri, Jun 24 2011, 10:21 am Post subject: re: SCD Diet

sarachana and others with questions on legal/illegal foods:

the diet is NOT about the healthiest way to eat. it also does NOT disallow raw produce. raw produce is not allowed when diarrhea is present. otherwise, eat a ton of it if you want.

the diet is not about what's hard to digest, it's about where things are digested. it cuts out complex carbs, but not simple ones. it is not necessarily a high protein/low carb diet unless you make it so.

this diet is particularly for those who have digestive issues stemming from the colon. at some point, the colon tries to protect itself by forming a mucus membrane on its wall. if you know how digestion works, complex carbs are broken down by enzymes located on the colon wall. when a mucus membrane is formed, the enzymes are covered, so they can't meet the complex carbs to break them down. the complex carbs sit undigested in the gut while your natural bacteria feed off of them. the person ends up with a serious bacterial imbalance, resulting in lots of symptoms. some of these symptoms seem unrelated to digestion, you'd never know where they come from. the diet allows simple carbs because they are broken down in your mouth, with saliva. proteins are broken down differently, so they are allowed.

lots of things are technically legal on this diet, but it is known that any person may have extra sensitivities. if you know you can't handle onions, skip them.

again, this diet is a healing diet, but it's only as healthy as you make it. if all you eat all day is chicken, I can assure you you will have problems.

to the poster who's thinking about spelt matza:

I didn't do the diet on the dr's say so either. I did research, started it, and found it helped me immediately. the first shabbos I tried one bite of challah and reacted within a half hour. I called my rav, who told me not to eat any more of it. I should point out that I started the diet on a sunday, so it was obvious by shabbos what a reaction to challah would be. do not eat matzah. not only will it give you a reaction, it can set you back months. I kid you not. speak to a rav before doing that, you may be harming yourself.

Posted: Fri, Jun 24 2011, 10:25 am Post subject: Re: re: SCD Diet

Posted: Fri, Jun 24 2011, 10:29 am Post subject: Re: re: SCD Diet

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If you start to check out some of the egroups. etc. and you see discussion of matzah, note it's ONLY the minimum necessary for Pesach and possibly Succos. Rabbanim who've been on the diet have had no problem with not making hamotzi more often.

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Posted: Fri, Jun 24 2011, 11:42 am Post subject: Re: re: SCD Diet