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PostPosted: Sun, Jun 12 2011, 2:45 am    Post subject:
 
I made the strawberry mousse as well for shvuos. raw eggs come with the territory when you make homemade ice cream. Since it's kept frozen the whole time I'm not so afraid of salmonella.
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PostPosted: Sun, Jun 12 2011, 8:30 am    Post subject: re: I feel really stupid, but please help me!
 
Its probably too late now but what you could do is add the sugar to the egg whites and, over a saucepan of simmering water, whisk the egg whites and sugar together until the sugar is dissolved, I think this kills the bacteria.
Afterwards, put it in the stand mixer or use the hand mixer the same as you normally would.
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PostPosted: Sun, Jun 12 2011, 3:59 pm    Post subject: Re: re: I feel really stupid, but please help me!
 
Isramom8 wrote:
zaq wrote:
vicki wrote:
I make choc mousse all the time. While I know there is a risk, I don't think the risk is very high.


I assume you never had the pleasure of a bout of salmonella poisoning.


Isn't the general risk mainly for immunocompromised individuals, e.g. the chronically ill, the pregnant, the very old and the very young?


They are at higher risk than the general population as they are for just about everything from the common cold to bubonic plague, but the general population is at risk as well. Do you care to be responsible for a member of your family or a guest getting food poisoning? Ask anyone who's ever had salmonella poisoning for the gory details. Question of the day: What do you do when your body is explosively, painfully and pretty much continuously expelling the contents of your GI tract from both ends at the same time? How about if your family has only one bathroom?
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PostPosted: Sun, Jun 12 2011, 4:01 pm    Post subject:
 
Mama Bear wrote:
I made the strawberry mousse as well for shvuos. raw eggs come with the territory when you make homemade ice cream. Since it's kept frozen the whole time I'm not so afraid of salmonella.


Freezing does not kill bacteria. It merely slows down their progress. Given enough time they will replicate even in the freezer.
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PostPosted: Mon, Jun 13 2011, 5:06 am    Post subject:
 
Mama Bear wrote:
I made the strawberry mousse as well for shvuos. raw eggs come with the territory when you make homemade ice cream. Since it's kept frozen the whole time I'm not so afraid of salmonella.


It doesn't come with the territory when you make homemade ice cream, it comes with the territory when you make heimishe pareve ice cream substitute.

Real ice cream is cooked into a custard (milk, eggs, sugar and flavoring), then it is removed from heat and churned while frozen. But most people in our communities do no know that because "no one" makes real ice cream, only the whipped up egg whites with pareve "whip"...which is full of artifical ingredients and chemicals and very negligible in nutrients...whereas real milchig ice cream has actual nutrients; carbs, protein and fat.
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PostPosted: Mon, Jun 13 2011, 9:29 am    Post subject:
 
ITK knows her stuff. And homemade ice cream--the real thing, not the pareve poison--is sublime. It tastes exactly like the expensive premium brands like Haagen Dazs, and for good reason: the ingredients are the same. And **no** worries about salmonella.
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PostPosted: Mon, Jun 13 2011, 10:42 am    Post subject: re: I feel really stupid, but please help me!
 
As someone who has experienced salmonella personally, I will tell you: you do not have to be immuno-compromised. I was an 11 years old, healthy girl when we went to eat at someone's house for a yom tov meal. My uncle and I both got sick and believe me, it is NOT worth the risk. I had fevers over 104, as did my uncle. Everything I put in my body came right back out. From both ends. I was so weak and in so much pain that my parents had to carry me to the bathroom. On one of my many visits to the Dr. he mentioned something about the possibility of needing to go to the hospital. I became nervous and began to cry and when no tears came out he made me go to the hospital immediately, as I was suffering from severe dehydration. The whole bout lasted about two weeks and believe me, you are better off just erring on the side of caution. For your own sake, for your family and for the sake of any guests you may have. To this day, I don't think the woman whose house we visited knows how sick we became.
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PostPosted: Mon, Jun 13 2011, 11:46 am    Post subject:
 
You can make very good pareve, homemade ice cream without eggs. I do so. That's why I'm fat !
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PostPosted: Mon, Jun 13 2011, 1:22 pm    Post subject:
 
I think a lot of regular dairy ice cream doesn't contain raw eggs (I know when I got my ice cream maker, the recipes called for whipping cream but no eggs) and just googled out of curiosity for Baskin Robbins ingredients

http://www.baskinrobbins.com/Nutrition/product.aspx?Category=Ice+Cream&id=0248

No eggs or even traces of eggs as seen in the allergen list.

(ETA: Haagen Dazs has egg yolks - http://www.haagen-dazs.com/ing.....=ice+cream)
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PostPosted: Mon, Jun 13 2011, 1:28 pm    Post subject: re: I feel really stupid, but please help me!
 
Chocolate Mousse, forgive me if I am repeating what someone already asked, but can you give me the recipe for a parev no egg ice cream? (I don't have any machine except a mixer/food processor) I presumed that just the egg yolks were the issue, but reading this thread, maybe I am wrong, and the whites are just as "bad" in terms of salmonella. I try to never use raw eggs in anything because of this, but again, made "ice cream" for shavuot but thought we were ok since it had only whites, and no yolks.
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PostPosted: Mon, Jun 13 2011, 2:25 pm    Post subject:
 
Good Heavens! There are many!

One was posted here recently, not by me - a can of pie filling and whip.

There are others., too.
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