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PostPosted: Sun, Feb 13 2005, 1:41 pm    Post subject: New York City Water
 
some poskim say it must be filtered for copepods, others say it doesn't have to be

here's some information:

http://www.nosheretz.com/Recomemndations.html
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PostPosted: Mon, Feb 14 2005, 5:04 am    Post subject:
 
water have been going through your pipes for years so why now are the poskim telling people to cover up there sinks?
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PostPosted: Mon, Feb 14 2005, 5:48 am    Post subject:
 
I'm certainly not questioning the psak of the rabbonim, but what did our ancestors do with their water? Their water was certainly not filtered and as it also wasn't chlorinated or cleaned in any way, it must have contained such organisms too. Why was this never an issue?
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PostPosted: Mon, Feb 14 2005, 1:19 pm    Post subject:
 
Maybe they weren't so familiar with how things work sarahd or maybe then there was no choice. But once one knows why not go the extra step it can't hurt, and costs nonething but a peace of mind!
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PostPosted: Mon, Feb 14 2005, 11:44 pm    Post subject:
 
you can use plain cheese cloth.
Cheap & effective.
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PostPosted: Tue, Feb 15 2005, 1:54 pm    Post subject:
 
that's what was said at first
Kashrus magazine had an article where they didn't recommend it any longer, or if you're going to use it anyway, to use many layers, change often ...
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PostPosted: Tue, Feb 15 2005, 4:31 pm    Post subject:
 
still cheaper
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PostPosted: Tue, Feb 15 2005, 4:47 pm    Post subject:
 
but if it's not recommended, how does the price matter?
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PostPosted: Tue, Feb 15 2005, 5:19 pm    Post subject:
 
I looked over the letter -
nowhere does it say that it's not reccomended

and it's done by lubavich bais din, so it is not applicable to everybody

Thre are Rabbeim who hold that this is not a problem. When I'll go to NY, I'll find out what our Rav thinks about it.

A few things made me wonder:

it says that if food was cooked w/ unfiltered water it may be eaten.... Confused

and

utencils washed w. unfiltered water need to be rinsed or dried. Rinsing & drying are not the same thing Confused

Just wondering.......
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PostPosted: Tue, Feb 15 2005, 5:29 pm    Post subject:
 
Quote:
I looked over the letter -nowhere does it say that it's not reccomended


I quoted the article in Kashrus magazine, not that link

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and it's done by lubavich bais din, so it is not applicable to everybody


it's R' Elyashiv and numerous other non-chasidic poskim who say the water must be filtered with a filter

though others, like Rabbi Belsky, disagree

I'm wondering about all this too.
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PostPosted: Tue, Feb 15 2005, 5:52 pm    Post subject:
 
the link you provided says C Heights bais din.

I have no clue as to what other Rabbeim say & untill it becomes a practical question, do not really care

but thanks for the info

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article in Kashrus magazine

oh, I like how they pasken in these articles... Evil or Very Mad
(not only inthis magazine, but generally)
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PostPosted: Tue, Feb 15 2005, 6:21 pm    Post subject:
 
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oh, I like how they pasken in these articles...


the article is not a psak

it's taken from the OU Fact Sheet on NYC Water (so in that sense, perhaps it represent the OU's psak)

it describes the creature, explains why they are present in the water, and discusses different methods of filtering them out of the water

it doesn't quote any rabbis, though the entire article has as its premise that the bugs are a problem and you need to get rid of them

I am surprised that the article does not acknowledge dissenting opinions.
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PostPosted: Tue, Feb 15 2005, 6:25 pm    Post subject:
 
this is exactly why I'm rathe wary of the press
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PostPosted: Wed, Feb 16 2005, 11:11 am    Post subject:
 
How do they know it's only New York water (is that all of New York or the whole state?)? Maybe other cities also have the problem?
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