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Posted: Fri, Nov 26 2010, 3:32 pm Post subject: re: People with disabilities have feelings, too! Worth L00Ki
Thanks mama bear for sharing! I have a very soft spot for these special needs people. Yes this clip made me cry! If only we all would treat these gifted children like normal people!
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Posted: Fri, Nov 26 2010, 3:47 pm Post subject:
It's not like anyone other than the actors were saying something. Most people don't like getting involved in other peoples problems whatever it is. If it's right or not is another story and not in particular to this. I would not have gotten involved either and I would have done what the first man did. It's not my personality to say anything. If it was my own child or me, I probably would say something, though.
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Posted: Fri, Nov 26 2010, 3:49 pm Post subject:
I just watched some more (waiting for it to load, so I'm watching it in pieces) and with a teen I do think saying something is different, but it's with anything about getting involved.
Frankly - I dont think I would say anything, because people with such mouths intimdiate me. I'd be very uncomfortable.
If it were a frum Yid behavint htat way I'd probably speak up, because I'd be less afraid of them and more concerned about chilul hashem. _________________ http://www.autism-parenting.com
Posted: Fri, Nov 26 2010, 5:16 pm Post subject: re: People with disabilities have feelings, too! Worth L00Ki
I also have tears in my eyes.
That being said, I am very anti these experiments (I know Inspired posted one about people's reaction on seeing a dummy-baby left in a car). I don't think there is a ends to justify the means of tricking people and playing with their emotions.
I know, Tova. It bothered me too.
ABC went undercover a while back with someone dressed as a frum Yid and an actor making anti semitic remarks, they wanted to see if anyone would come to his aid. as a matter of fact... most people just added their own anti-semitic remarks. not cool!
Posted: Sat, Nov 27 2010, 9:12 pm Post subject: re: People with disabilities have feelings, too! Worth L00Ki
Uch. I was thinking about this some more on Shabbos. It is one thing for someone to be acting as if they have a disability and get made fun of. It is a whole 'nother if, like Josh, the actor actually has that disability. I cannot believe that it wasn't ripping him inside to be called what he was many times, EVEN if he know that the other party was also an actor in the experiment.
I think of myself as a person of integrity. I would not have accosted these people. I would have been seething inside, but I would not have said anything.
But there's another one of this series about a guy with a fake police badge telling people to do horrible things, like take someone's wallet, put something in the person's drink, and even take her baby (the cop said she had kidnapped the baby). What's interesting is that I would never have listened there either, even though they said that everyone did.
I'm just naturally a coward, I guess. I wouldn't stand up to injustice here, but I also wouldn't go ahead and proactively do the cop thing. I have a feeling that some of the people who stand up to injustice would also have followed the cop's instruction, as crazy as they might sound. So I don't know what that says.
And just one last thought. Can you imagine what these people felt like afterwards? We believe that Hashem watches us, but I bet that these people LIVED with the knowledge that someone could be watching them - more than we do, unfortunately.
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Posted: Sat, Nov 27 2010, 11:17 pm Post subject: Re: re: People with disabilities have feelings, too! Worth L
Tova wrote:
I also have tears in my eyes.
That being said, I am very anti these experiments (I know Inspired posted one about people's reaction on seeing a dummy-baby left in a car). I don't think there is a ends to justify the means of tricking people and playing with their emotions.
you're right. I think these kinds of experiments are a form of gneivas daas.
Posted: Tue, Nov 30 2010, 3:32 am Post subject: Re: re: People with disabilities have feelings, too! Worth L
Tova wrote:
Uch. I was thinking about this some more on Shabbos. It is one thing for someone to be acting as if they have a disability and get made fun of. It is a whole 'nother if, like Josh, the actor actually has that disability. I cannot believe that it wasn't ripping him inside to be called what he was many times, EVEN if he know that the other party was also an actor in the experiment.
But he hears it all the time.
That is the point. All the things the WWYD people do are done every day. And no one stands up for the person being hurt. If you stand by to a crime you could stop you are an accomplice.
I cannot imagine standing there and saying nothing. If it were my child I would stand up. Why does a child deserve less protection just because he is not mine? If we all felt protective of others and cared about other people enough to get involved the world would be a safer, kinder place.
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