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Posted: Wed, Aug 18 2010, 9:35 am Post subject: muzinka tanz |
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Dear ladies,
I am looking for insights. I've never heard of this minhag, but my BIL (the youngest) is getting married thisd weekend and my SIL wanted to prepare the tanz as a suprise for their mother. However, she is getting very confused as to details of the dance, I.e. who is using the broom, who is dancing, etc.
Any info ASAP would be appreciated.
TIA _________________ "Tis better to keep silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt". - A. Lincoln
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Posted: Wed, Aug 18 2010, 9:39 am Post subject: re: muzinka tanz |
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I've heard it is a Hungarian thing. You should pm Mama Bear! _________________
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Posted: Wed, Aug 18 2010, 9:42 am Post subject: |
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| There are no rules. But the mother usually has the broom - she is sweeping everyone out of the house - and everyone dances around her.
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Posted: Wed, Aug 18 2010, 10:10 am Post subject: re: muzinka tanz |
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| My sister married a youngest, and there was a muzinka. I think there were also flower/ribbon wreaths that the his family members wore (I'm sure they were fake flowers).
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Posted: Wed, Aug 18 2010, 10:53 am Post subject: re: muzinka tanz |
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I'm the youngest of 7 and had a mazinka tanz. It was so beautiful. I always thought it weird for a youngest boy to have one though.
Here is how we did it.
Each adult daughter (5 of us) had a full size pretty broom, and all the granddaughters had mini brooms. We got these from a gamach. My mother had a wreath from the florist - any florist should know about this. I don't even think ours charged us for it. There is special music for the dance (your musician should know it). Us women happened to go to a person who knows dancing to teach us the circle dances (I'm a horrible dancer) so she tought all of us the dance that goes with the music. If you don't know the dance, you can just dance anything. My father and mother sat on seats and all of us daughters and granddaughters danced in front of them to start with, then my mother came and danced with each daugther individually, me last. My brothers also came in to watch. It was so so beautiful and everyone there marveled at it. I got several requests to see our wedding video for people to copy the whole thing.
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Posted: Wed, Aug 18 2010, 11:07 am Post subject: re: muzinka tanz |
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I've been thinking about this for a while. Two of my kids married the last to be married, and in each case, the mechutonim didn't want a mezinka.
I have married off all (11) but one who is now entering the shidduch parsha.
I always knew my husband would want mezinka -- he thinks it's wonderful (his mother a"h even knew the words to all of the numerous stanzas of it).
I was always opposed to it (unless it is really your minhag) as I feel that:
1) it isn't tzniusdik
2) it is a public spectacle
3) I hate to have it done in front of my friends who have infertility problems, difficulties with raising children and difficulties with children's shidduchim.
I was recently at a chasuna where one was done, and I was standing next to the wife of a Litvish Rosh Yeshiva who is also the daughter of a very famous Litvish Rosh Yeshiva. I asked her if this is done in Yeshivish circles, and she told me it is not other than when it is the minhag of the other side.
I've started hinting to my husband about this, mentioning that conversation (it is not our minhag and we are mainstream Yeshivish) so that he will be prepared for the fact that I will (very strongly) not want to have one. _________________ Want to lose weight fast? Want to keep it off easily?
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Posted: Wed, Aug 18 2010, 11:18 am Post subject: re: muzinka tanz |
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My youngest brother recently got married but my mother was very strongly against the "broom" dance because she didn't like the fact that it meant "sweeping/cleaning the nest out". She kept saying that her house is not emptying out, it's filling up! We children still wanted to do something in honor of this special milestone, so here's what we did:
Each daughter, daughter-in-law, and granddaughter got a rose and my mother sat in a chair, holding a ribbon. We all danced around her with our roses, then formed a line and one by one we handed the roses to my mother, who tied them all together with her ribbon. The idea was that she's gathering all of her flowers into one big bouquet. It was really beautiful. (It was a surprise for my mother and she loved it.) _________________ "To err is human. To blame it on a computer is even more so."
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Posted: Wed, Aug 18 2010, 11:23 am Post subject: re: muzinka tanz |
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I think it is a beautiful minhag. my friend, not the youngest but the last of her siblings to finally BH get married, married an only child so both mothers had brooms and swept them away happily (they were both a bit older when they BH found each other). it was just symbolic really. my friend's parent's house is anything but an empty nest now, but it was a nice symbol of them getting married finally
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Posted: Wed, Aug 18 2010, 11:33 am Post subject: Re: re: muzinka tanz |
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| onlyme wrote: | | My youngest brother recently got married but my mother was very strongly against the "broom" dance because she didn't like the fact that it meant "sweeping/cleaning the nest out". She kept saying that her house is not emptying out, it's filling up! |
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Posted: Wed, Aug 18 2010, 11:40 am Post subject: re: muzinka tanz |
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I have a younger brother who has special needs but is highly intelligent. My mother says she will not dance the muzinka when my little sister (shidduch age) gets married B"EH.
My second-youngest-sister married a youngest, and they did the muzinka - brooms, ribbons and all....and he also has a special-needs sibling. We were surprised, but then again maybe in that case the sibling was not aware. _________________ Chayalle
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Posted: Wed, Aug 18 2010, 11:43 am Post subject: Re: re: muzinka tanz |
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| Ruchel wrote: | | onlyme wrote: | | My youngest brother recently got married but my mother was very strongly against the "broom" dance because she didn't like the fact that it meant "sweeping/cleaning the nest out". She kept saying that her house is not emptying out, it's filling up! |
 | ?Wrong. After all the kids are married in a mazeldige shoo, now is the time to sit back and "sweep" in all the nachas.
I am not sure about the broom thing, but it seems like it is all in the interpretation. Some see it as sweeping out, others, as sweeping in. _________________ Because it's good!
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Posted: Wed, Aug 18 2010, 5:49 pm Post subject: Re: re: muzinka tanz |
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| onlyme wrote: | My youngest brother recently got married but my mother was very strongly against the "broom" dance because she didn't like the fact that it meant "sweeping/cleaning the nest out". She kept saying that her house is not emptying out, it's filling up! We children still wanted to do something in honor of this special milestone, so here's what we did:
Each daughter, daughter-in-law, and granddaughter got a rose and my mother sat in a chair, holding a ribbon. We all danced around her with our roses, then formed a line and one by one we handed the roses to my mother, who tied them all together with her ribbon. The idea was that she's gathering all of her flowers into one big bouquet. It was really beautiful. (It was a surprise for my mother and she loved it.) |
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