Is "eating from a container" ossur on Shabbos ?

Platinum Member Joined: Jan 01 2006 Posts: 48139

Can I add granola to a yogurt in its container on Shabbos, eat from it, then throw it away? Or that like making a kayli ?

Along the same line, I once saw a man eating herring from a serving contaienr at a kiddush on Shabos; I assume he was eating the last few pieces; is that allowed ?

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I was not under the impression that emptying a dish or container is called making a kali...

so afaik it should 100% ok.

maybe there is a problem with tearing the alminum off the top of a yougart but I have never heard thats a problem... and I would think one of the halacha classes I took would mention it.

if you have a jar of pickles you are allowed to eat the last pickle or you are allowed to finish a jar of apple sauce by eating spoons straight from the jar.

(it may be gross but its not assur)

Posted: Thu, Jul 01 2010, 4:32 pm Post subject:

I don't think it's a problem.
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Never heard of that, and I was taught hilchos Shabbos four times.
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Posted: Thu, Jul 01 2010, 4:39 pm Post subject:

There are some types of container you are supposed to immediately empty IF you opened them on Shabbos - eg a plastic bag of bissli. But not a yoghurt or a herring container.

I would ask a shaila about adding the granola to the yoghurt though (whatever you are eating it out of) - it might be lisha depending on the consistency of the yoghurt.
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Silver Member Joined: Nov 03 2009 Posts: 585

A container, esp one with a top is fine. Some pple are makpid to immediately empty a chips bag, if not opened b4 shabbos- or tear in such a way that it's not reusable. (being careful not to rip words)
some pple won't eat a freezie, since when you snip off the end, it becomes a Kali.
Others say a single serving package of something, chips, freezie, choc bar, etc., is meant to be eaten all at once and there is no fear of it being considered a kaili, since you will throw it out after.

Best to ask, as usual.

I was taught the "tearing in a way that it is not reusable" option. I will try to ask DH.

DH says the OP's example is not called making a kli.

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As far as I know, its not making a keli, because it already was a keli when they added the plastic covering on top. Its not a problem to open or eat from it.

Platinum Member Joined: Jan 01 2006 Posts: 48139

Ok all, thanks

According to my dh, the kli making part comes when one does something that would turn it into a kil; for instance, removing the lid of a can; that finishes the job of making it a dish. Or removing a bottle cap that is divided, along the middle like (for those of us who drink cheap wine) a wine or grape juice cap, because then you are making a kli, albeit very small, out of the cap.
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Silver Member Joined: Nov 03 2009 Posts: 585

FYI, there are those who hold that taking off such a bottlecap is muttar on Shabbos, so if you see someone doing it, it's not neccessarily wrong.
Also, some open soda cans and some do not.

Platinum Member Joined: Jan 01 2006 Posts: 48139

Right, some open cans but pour all of the liquid into another cup, so as not to make a kayli. That's why I am concerned about eating yogurt from a container that I will open on Shabbos. How is it different than the soda can ?

First like SMH says, not all hold that way...I knew that, but I was just speaking from my perspective. But it was a good thing to point out.

Second, the idea is that the item isn't a kli till you finish making it. ie, the yogurt container doesn't change form, but taking off the can lid makes a new thing...well I guess it really is sort of perception...hard to explain but easier, at least for me to see.