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PostPosted: Wed, May 12 2010, 9:20 pm    Post subject: "no one in my class has to..."
 
from my 14 yr old "...make their own lunches"(also has to make her sisters), "...walk to school" (should take 10 to 15 min)

from my 9 year old (telling me since she was 8) "...tidy their own rooms", "fold their laundry"

so what gives? Am I a bad mother? am I making my kids do hard labor?
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PostPosted: Wed, May 12 2010, 9:21 pm    Post subject: re: "no one in my class has to..."
 
that smiley was supposed to be 8. Don't know why it turned into a smiley, maybe coz of the ) next to it
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PostPosted: Wed, May 12 2010, 9:31 pm    Post subject: re: "no one in my class has to..."
 
Sounds to me like you are doing your job right. And they are too-sending you on a guilt trip is one of their jobs children do to perfection. Don't let it get to you. Just say calmly, "in our house, we xyz, every mother runs her home differently, this is how we run ours." Keep repeating it till they can recite it themselves. You never know, it might sink in. Don't automatically believe generalizations such as the ones you mentioned. Kids think there's power in numbers; half the mothers probably make their kids do the exact same thing Smile .
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PostPosted: Wed, May 12 2010, 9:47 pm    Post subject: re: "no one in my class has to..."
 
1. There is never such a thing as "everyone in my class" does anything or 'no one in my class" does anything. That's a myth and dd's skewed, put-upon perception. We had exactly the same perceptions in our days and probably still do. We see what we want to see.

2. So who cares what "all the other kids" do or don't do? You're your child's mother and your sole interest is her well-being, not that of her classmates.

At some point in 20 or 40 years, your dc will suddenly understand that the "mean" mothers who make their kids eat their veggies, clean their rooms, do their homework, write thank-you notes to Tante Gertrude, and brush their teeth are the good ones.
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PostPosted: Wed, May 12 2010, 9:56 pm    Post subject: re: "no one in my class has to..."
 
BTW, did you never tell dd who walks to school how at her age you had to walk barefoot in the dark 6 miles thru the snow to get to school, and it was uphill both ways? Not to mention you had to chop wood for the fire before you left?
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PostPosted: Wed, May 12 2010, 10:09 pm    Post subject:
 
I have no problem asking my dd to make her own lunch. I would have more of a problem making her responsible to do all her siblings'. I was responsible for my own laundry & lunches around age 12. I had no problem with it & I plan to do this for my children. I would have truly resented it if I had to spend half my evening making everybody elses.
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PostPosted: Wed, May 12 2010, 10:23 pm    Post subject: re: "no one in my class has to..."
 
Thanks guys,

groismama that is actually what I say to them, thanks for validating that I'm saying the right thing.

Louche, yeah I figured as much and tried explaining that.

re what I did, lol no they wouldn't believe me if I told them what you suggested. Maybe if I told them my parents did... LOL

chaylizi she only has to make one sibling's lunch, is that still too mean?
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PostPosted: Wed, May 12 2010, 10:26 pm    Post subject: re: "no one in my class has to..."
 
I just read the Chinuch Roundtable in last week's Yated on this topic. If you can get hold of it I'm sure you'll feel validated.
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PostPosted: Wed, May 12 2010, 10:31 pm    Post subject: Re: re: "no one in my class has to..."
 
louche wrote:
BTW, did you never tell dd who walks to school how at her age you had to walk barefoot in the dark 6 miles thru the snow to get to school, and it was uphill both ways? Not to mention you had to chop wood for the fire before you left?

Rolling Laughter I'm saving this for when my kids are older lol
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PostPosted: Thu, May 13 2010, 9:36 am    Post subject: Re: re: "no one in my class has to..."
 
louche wrote:
BTW, did you never tell dd who walks to school how at her age you had to walk barefoot in the dark 6 miles thru the snow to get to school, and it was uphill both ways? Not to mention you had to chop wood for the fire before you left?


I saw this cartoon: "When I was your age I had to walk across an unheated floor to switch the channels manually."
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PostPosted: Thu, May 13 2010, 9:50 am    Post subject: re: "no one in my class has to..."
 
Starting from 5th grade until I graduated high school I prepared 5-10 lunches every night, for my siblings and even for my father! (I hated it, especially because all I got were complaints, except from one older brother.)
A message from me: she's lucky she's only responsible for 1 or 2.
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PostPosted: Thu, May 13 2010, 10:10 am    Post subject: Re: re: "no one in my class has to..."
 
PinkFridge wrote:

I saw this cartoon: "When I was your age I had to walk across an unheated floor to switch the channels manually."


what, change channels manually? we didn't even have a switch: we had to turn the whole TV set to change channels. That was the second TV we had. the first one was so no-frills, when we wanted to change channels we had to turn the whole house!
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PostPosted: Thu, May 13 2010, 10:55 am    Post subject: Re: re: "no one in my class has to..."
 
louche wrote:
PinkFridge wrote:

I saw this cartoon: "When I was your age I had to walk across an unheated floor to switch the channels manually."


what, change channels manually? we didn't even have a switch: we had to turn the whole TV set to change channels. That was the second TV we had. the first one was so no-frills, when we wanted to change channels we had to turn the whole house!
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PostPosted: Thu, May 13 2010, 11:27 am    Post subject: Re: re: "no one in my class has to..."
 
louche wrote:
BTW, did you never tell dd who walks to school how at her age you had to walk barefoot in the dark 6 miles thru the snow to get to school, and it was uphill both ways? Not to mention you had to chop wood for the fire before you left?


Very Happy That reminds me of a joke I once read: A son complains to his father about going to school. The father tells him, "When Abraham Lincoln was your age he used to walk miles to go to school. The son responded "yes and when he was YOUR age, he was president of the United states".
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PostPosted: Thu, May 13 2010, 9:12 pm    Post subject: Re: re: "no one in my class has to..."
 
GR wrote:
Starting from 5th grade until I graduated high school I prepared 5-10 lunches every night, for my siblings and even for my father! (I hated it, especially because all I got were complaints, except from one older brother.)
A message from me: she's lucky she's only responsible for 1 or 2.


OP here. I'm curious, how do you feel about it now? Do you still carry some resentment? Do you think it's fine to make her be responsible for her sister's lunch. (which in a year or two I'm going to make her sister be responsible for herself and for a younger sibling too just like her sister was responsible for hers)
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PostPosted: Thu, May 13 2010, 11:11 pm    Post subject: re: "no one in my class has to..."
 
No, I don't carry any resentment at all. I'm happy to have helped out and taken one thing off my mother's head.
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PostPosted: Thu, May 13 2010, 11:25 pm    Post subject: Re: re: "no one in my class has to..."
 
PinkFridge wrote:
I just read the Chinuch Roundtable in last week's Yated on this topic. If you can get hold of it I'm sure you'll feel validated.



You should read it so you'll feel better. I still have a copy of it if you want me to mail it to you. I had to do things for my younger siblings and never resented it. I was happy to do it. It's all about how you phrase it and the attitute. When I tell ds to come in from playing outdoors he says "but she and she are younger then me and they can stay out".... Kids are always comparing.
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PostPosted: Fri, May 14 2010, 12:10 am    Post subject: Re: re: "no one in my class has to..."
 
flowerpower wrote:
PinkFridge wrote:
I just read the Chinuch Roundtable in last week's Yated on this topic. If you can get hold of it I'm sure you'll feel validated.



You should read it so you'll feel better. I still have a copy of it if you want me to mail it to you. I had to do things for my younger siblings and never resented it. I was happy to do it. It's all about how you phrase it and the attitute. When I tell ds to come in from playing outdoors he says "but she and she are younger then me and they can stay out".... Kids are always comparing.

very nice of you to offer, thankyou.
I live really far away, do you think you could scan it in and email it to me instead? not the whole mag obviously but just that article.
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PostPosted: Fri, May 14 2010, 3:00 am    Post subject: Re: re: "no one in my class has to..."
 
louche wrote:
BTW, did you never tell dd who walks to school how at her age you had to walk barefoot in the dark 6 miles thru the snow to get to school, and it was uphill both ways? Not to mention you had to chop wood for the fire before you left?


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When I tell my teenage daughter the things I used to do at her age, she answers me jokingly "oy, such 'yeridos hadoros'! what could you do?"
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PostPosted: Fri, May 14 2010, 9:30 am    Post subject: Re: re: "no one in my class has to..."
 
Shmerling wrote:
louche wrote:
BTW, did you never tell dd who walks to school how at her age you had to walk barefoot in the dark 6 miles thru the snow to get to school, and it was uphill both ways? Not to mention you had to chop wood for the fire before you left?


Laughing
When I tell my teenage daughter the things I used to do at her age, she answers me jokingly "oy, such 'yeridos hadoros'! what could you do?"


I like your daughter!
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