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PostPosted: Sun, Mar 14 2010, 8:23 pm    Post subject: DD's classmate's father passed away unexpectedly...
 
in a terrible accident. I'm one of the class mothers. Should we try to do something for the mother whose husband passed away? The school is arranging something for the kids with Chai Lifeline and I spoke with my daughter briefly. Any advice?
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PostPosted: Sun, Mar 14 2010, 8:49 pm    Post subject: re: DD's classmate's father passed away unexpectedly...
 
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I think you should find out what the families are doing and if needed, perhaps step in to help. I would imagine that just after shiva is a time when she can use support, even if it's just suppers, taking her kids for a break so she can have alone time when needed or to take care of things.

So sad.
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PostPosted: Sun, Mar 14 2010, 8:50 pm    Post subject: Re: DD's classmate's father passed away unexpectedly...
 
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in a terrible accident. I'm one of the class mothers. Should we try to do something for the mother whose husband passed away? The school is arranging something for the kids with Chai Lifeline and I spoke with my daughter briefly. Any advice?


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Obviously, see her sit shiva, and make sure that she has meals.

A trained counselor should talk to the kids in the class about how to deal with the children. Basically, they should be treated as any other child. When the father of a friend of my middle son passed away, it gave the boy great comfort to play soccer. And so, the kids who came to see him sit shiva (and the kids should) played soccer with him.

It would be nice if the parents who know her, or whose kids are friends with her kids, took turns calling on Thursday to see if she needs anything for Shabbat. Same re seders. Does she have a place to be, can someone provide food if she doesn't want to be out. Be sure to include the kids in chol hamoed things, even if its just a trip to the park, if they want to. Can the community help provide a cleaning service, so she doesn't have to worry about Pesach?
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PostPosted: Sun, Mar 14 2010, 8:51 pm    Post subject: Re: re: DD's classmate's father passed away unexpectedly...
 
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I think you should find out what the families are doing and if needed, perhaps step in to help. I would imagine that just after shiva is a time when she can use support, even if it's just suppers, taking her kids for a break so she can have alone time when needed or to take care of things.

So sad.


She is not a local mother. We live in Washington Heights she lives in NJ and I don't drive. I would like to help but I don't know how much I can do with three kids of my own in school full time and DH working crazy hours.
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PostPosted: Sun, Mar 14 2010, 8:58 pm    Post subject: Re: re: DD's classmate's father passed away unexpectedly...
 
MommyZ wrote:
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I think you should find out what the families are doing and if needed, perhaps step in to help. I would imagine that just after shiva is a time when she can use support, even if it's just suppers, taking her kids for a break so she can have alone time when needed or to take care of things.

So sad.


She is not a local mother. We live in Washington Heights she lives in NJ and I don't drive. I would like to help but I don't know how much I can do with three kids of my own in school full time and DH working crazy hours.

Oh wow. That makes it really hard. How far is the drive? Are there those that would drive down there?

Is it possible to contact someone from her local community to have them organize meals for her for a week or two? Especially with Pesach coming up. Or even for right after Pesach.
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PostPosted: Sun, Mar 14 2010, 9:05 pm    Post subject:
 
It would be nice if someone could clue the girls in about how to talk to their classmate. Don't let them make her feel like a nebech or an outcast or someone to look down on. I lost my father during the summer before first grade. A girl who was later one of my closest friends told me later that she was afraid of me because I didn't have a father. I was traumatized & I probably talked about it more than was socially acceptable & it was a terrible start to elementary school.
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PostPosted: Sun, Mar 14 2010, 9:09 pm    Post subject:
 
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It would be nice if someone could clue the girls in about how to talk to their classmate. Don't let them make her feel like a nebech or an outcast or someone to look down on. I lost my father during the summer before first grade. A girl who was later one of my closest friends told me later that she was afraid of me because I didn't have a father. I was traumatized & I probably talked about it more than was socially acceptable & it was a terrible start to elementary school.


My daughter is in first grade so the girls are around 6-7 years old. The school is arranging to have someone from Chai Lifeline speak to them. I already spoke with my daughter briefly about how this girl will be sad and to try to be sensitive. She's already the new girl in a small class so I wouldn't want her to feel like she doesn't fit in.
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PostPosted: Sun, Mar 14 2010, 9:13 pm    Post subject:
 
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It would be nice if someone could clue the girls in about how to talk to their classmate. Don't let them make her feel like a nebech or an outcast or someone to look down on. I lost my father during the summer before first grade. A girl who was later one of my closest friends told me later that she was afraid of me because I didn't have a father. I was traumatized & I probably talked about it more than was socially acceptable & it was a terrible start to elementary school.


My daughter is in first grade so the girls are around 6-7 years old. The school is arranging to have someone from Chai Lifeline speak to them. I already spoke with my daughter briefly about how this girl will be sad and to try to be sensitive. She's already the new girl in a small class so I wouldn't want her to feel like she doesn't fit in.


I'm so glad to hear that. These kids need sensitivity from their peers & not all of them are mature enough for that.
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PostPosted: Sun, Mar 14 2010, 9:16 pm    Post subject:
 
chaylizi wrote:
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It would be nice if someone could clue the girls in about how to talk to their classmate. Don't let them make her feel like a nebech or an outcast or someone to look down on. I lost my father during the summer before first grade. A girl who was later one of my closest friends told me later that she was afraid of me because I didn't have a father. I was traumatized & I probably talked about it more than was socially acceptable & it was a terrible start to elementary school.


My daughter is in first grade so the girls are around 6-7 years old. The school is arranging to have someone from Chai Lifeline speak to them. I already spoke with my daughter briefly about how this girl will be sad and to try to be sensitive. She's already the new girl in a small class so I wouldn't want her to feel like she doesn't fit in.


I'm so glad to hear that. These kids need sensitivity from their peers & not all of them are mature enough for that.


I'm not sure how much I should discuss with my daughter and my husband says he will speak with her as well.
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PostPosted: Sun, Mar 14 2010, 9:26 pm    Post subject:
 
It's a tough call at that age. My oldest is also in first grade. I'm not sure how I would address it either. My heart just goes out to kids who have such a life altering loss & to make it worse, are then shunned by peers.
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PostPosted: Sun, Mar 14 2010, 9:30 pm    Post subject:
 
chaylizi wrote:
It's a tough call at that age. My oldest is also in first grade. I'm not sure how I would address it either. My heart just goes out to kids who have such a life altering loss & to make it worse, are then shunned by peers.


I don't think my daughter would shun this girl. I know she is the youngest in her class but she's also mature for her age as well as the daughter of a cop so she has mentioned before that G-d forbid something could happen to her Daddy as a result of his work.
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PostPosted: Sun, Mar 14 2010, 9:33 pm    Post subject:
 
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It's a tough call at that age. My oldest is also in first grade. I'm not sure how I would address it either. My heart just goes out to kids who have such a life altering loss & to make it worse, are then shunned by peers.


I don't think my daughter would shun this girl. I know she is the youngest in her class but she's also mature for her age as well as the daughter of a cop so she has mentioned before that G-d forbid something could happen to her Daddy as a result of his work.


How did you bring that topic up? I can't imagine having to tell my kids that.
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PostPosted: Sun, Mar 14 2010, 9:44 pm    Post subject:
 
chaylizi wrote:
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It's a tough call at that age. My oldest is also in first grade. I'm not sure how I would address it either. My heart just goes out to kids who have such a life altering loss & to make it worse, are then shunned by peers.


I don't think my daughter would shun this girl. I know she is the youngest in her class but she's also mature for her age as well as the daughter of a cop so she has mentioned before that G-d forbid something could happen to her Daddy as a result of his work.


How did you bring that topic up? I can't imagine having to tell my kids that.


I said to her "Leora your friend's father was hurt very badly." and she said "Refuah Shelaimah" and I said "He passed away."
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PostPosted: Mon, Mar 15 2010, 9:53 am    Post subject: re: DD's classmate's father passed away unexpectedly...
 
I remember when I was in high school a boy lost his father. He was out of school for like a month, then came back, and we only heard through rumours what happened. No one said or did anything.
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PostPosted: Mon, Mar 15 2010, 10:07 am    Post subject: Re: re: DD's classmate's father passed away unexpectedly...
 
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I remember when I was in high school a boy lost his father. He was out of school for like a month, then came back, and we only heard through rumours what happened. No one said or did anything.


The levaya is today and the kids are in school. He is one of the Teaneck men who was hit by a tree on the way home from shul Friday night. Their younger son is in the pre-school with my son although he was not there before today. The other mothers and I are trying to figure out what we should do for the kids and for the mother.
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PostPosted: Mon, Mar 15 2010, 8:00 pm    Post subject: re: DD's classmate's father passed away unexpectedly...
 
Things to do:

1. Find out if there is a "coordinator" to arrange things. If so, work through her so efforts are not wastefully duplicated.

2. Help keep home functioning, I.e. meals, carpools.

3. Include children in outings, camping trips, play dates. Take boys to minyan.

4. Assume the mother is somewhat distracted. Offer to pick up things on shopping trips, call when you're going to purchase things for Yom tov. Call when you're registering your kids for Little League, camp, etc. to ask if she needs an application.

5. Ask the local Rav if there is a fund to provide those things that may not now be affordable, like camp, household repairs.....or food.

6. Explore befriending the widow. Her life as she knows it has ended, and she now needs greater social contact outside her home. And who knows? The life you enrich may be your own!
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