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I didn't take a job that doesn't put my kids first.
If that isn't a option for either you or your dh then between you and your dh you must either:
1.Have a list of people who could babysit that either you or your dh calls (take turns) going down the line till one is willing to sit that day for the sick child
2.If no one can come to sit, one or the other parents take off anyway, even if all vacation/sick time has been used. The person taking off should be the one whose job is either less vulnerable or less necessary, or who, if terminated, would more easily find another job. If both are equally vulnerable then take turns.
3. Work in any free time for one or both parents to find a job from home. _________________ But then again, I'm a dragon.
"The best way to keep a prisoner from escaping is to make sure he never knows he’s in prison."
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Posted: Thu, Oct 22 2009, 6:27 am Post subject: Re: re: Child is sick, Mommy's at work... WDYD? |
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| NotInNJMommy wrote: | | neverbored wrote: | | NotInNJMommy wrote: |
Well, some people, especially in this economy, have to work and beggars can't be choosers.
If someone is going to spout off like that, please also offer to watch my kid or pay the bills that won't get paid if I don't have a job.
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1- I spent a year looking for a job with that option and yes I am working too!
2- read above! I am not looking to watch anybody's kids nor would I do it to anybody else!
3- I am entitled to my opinion and principles, and as I said "jmvho" (tough luck if you don't like it!) |
I'm entitled to mine too, and I don't think a post like that belongs in this forum, and for sure not this thread in particular. OP works, and "I would NEVER take a job like the one you have" espcially given the economy right now, isn't a solution. She already took a job, and wants to try to make it work. |
I just left a job that had ZERO flexibility. Every yom tov day was a vacation day, and every time I or the kids had a doctor's appointment, it meant taking off a sick day (they wouldn't even let me work through lunch or other ways to make up an hour or two of time). Fortunately DH had a bit more flexibility in his job, but it was still a miserable situation. And it is the number one reason why I ultimately left that job. But my kids were almost two when I left. Which means I spent two years living with that miserable situation - the pull of how to cover all the time off necessary - yom tovim, real sick time for yourself (I know, G-d forbid a mother is allowed to actually be sick), doctors visits for yourself, sick time for the kids, and doctors visits for the kids. Not to mention things that just "come up" over the year that need to be dealt with in person, during office hours. It's an incredible struggle. And it doesn't help that the school insist on closing every ten minutes further putting two working parents in a major bind!
How we cover it now? B'H, it's SO much easier. Basically the deal we have with our bosses is that if one kid is home sick, we take turns working from home each day that that happens. They may sleep a bit longer, and then we can chew up a bit of time putting them in front of an Uncle Moishy video. And if they still get antsy, we let our boss know that we're signing off and will make up whatever time after the kids are in bed. But if they're both sick, we just alternate taking actual time off. B'H, we rarely have a situation where they're both home sick. Otherwise that too could be an unworkable situation.
And yes, we have sent them to school sick (ducking and running for cover ). Not so sick that they're miserable and just laying around. But the sort of sick where they're both sneezing and coughing but otherwise being completely normal. Is it optimal? No way. And if I were lucky enough to be a SAHM, that wouldn't happen. But if we want to have a roof over our head and food on the table we both must work. So certain things just become necessity.
It's SUCH a terrible predicament to find yourself in - having all these priorities pulling in opposite directions. I feel for you because I'm right there with you.
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Posted: Thu, Oct 22 2009, 10:44 am Post subject: Re: re: Child is sick, Mommy's at work... WDYD? |
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| tovarena wrote: | | NotInNJMommy wrote: | | neverbored wrote: | | NotInNJMommy wrote: |
Well, some people, especially in this economy, have to work and beggars can't be choosers.
If someone is going to spout off like that, please also offer to watch my kid or pay the bills that won't get paid if I don't have a job.
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1- I spent a year looking for a job with that option and yes I am working too!
2- read above! I am not looking to watch anybody's kids nor would I do it to anybody else!
3- I am entitled to my opinion and principles, and as I said "jmvho" (tough luck if you don't like it!) |
I'm entitled to mine too, and I don't think a post like that belongs in this forum, and for sure not this thread in particular. OP works, and "I would NEVER take a job like the one you have" espcially given the economy right now, isn't a solution. She already took a job, and wants to try to make it work. |
I just left a job that had ZERO flexibility. Every yom tov day was a vacation day, and every time I or the kids had a doctor's appointment, it meant taking off a sick day (they wouldn't even let me work through lunch or other ways to make up an hour or two of time). Fortunately DH had a bit more flexibility in his job, but it was still a miserable situation. And it is the number one reason why I ultimately left that job. But my kids were almost two when I left. Which means I spent two years living with that miserable situation - the pull of how to cover all the time off necessary - yom tovim, real sick time for yourself (I know, G-d forbid a mother is allowed to actually be sick), doctors visits for yourself, sick time for the kids, and doctors visits for the kids. Not to mention things that just "come up" over the year that need to be dealt with in person, during office hours. It's an incredible struggle. And it doesn't help that the school insist on closing every ten minutes further putting two working parents in a major bind!
How we cover it now? B'H, it's SO much easier. Basically the deal we have with our bosses is that if one kid is home sick, we take turns working from home each day that that happens. They may sleep a bit longer, and then we can chew up a bit of time putting them in front of an Uncle Moishy video. And if they still get antsy, we let our boss know that we're signing off and will make up whatever time after the kids are in bed. But if they're both sick, we just alternate taking actual time off. B'H, we rarely have a situation where they're both home sick. Otherwise that too could be an unworkable situation.
And yes, we have sent them to school sick (ducking and running for cover ). Not so sick that they're miserable and just laying around. But the sort of sick where they're both sneezing and coughing but otherwise being completely normal. Is it optimal? No way. And if I were lucky enough to be a SAHM, that wouldn't happen. But if we want to have a roof over our head and food on the table we both must work. So certain things just become necessity.
It's SUCH a terrible predicament to find yourself in - having all these priorities pulling in opposite directions. I feel for you because I'm right there with you. |
Thank you tovarena for your helpful post. Just wanted to say that ch"v no one is condemning you for sending a not-so-sick child to school! (I, for one, am certainly not!) I haven't been a working mom for too long - dd is only 6 months old - and who knows? I may have to resort to that at some point in the future. I made that comment because right now I don't have the heart to do that, but again, you never know. I'm sorry if I offended anyone (or if I made anyone feel even just a tiny bit guilty). _________________ "To err is human. To blame it on a computer is even more so."
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Posted: Thu, Oct 22 2009, 11:03 am Post subject: re: Child is sick, Mommy's at work... WDYD? |
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Amother because I don't care to be Once kids are in school & "not so sick" then maybe you can send them but just be aware that you may get a phone call from the school nurse. Also kids with "just runny nose, sneezing & coughing" tend to get fevers towards then end of the day & then you can't send them the next day because they need to be fever free for 24 hours. Most licensed daycares will not let you send a child with anything more than a little cold. BTW did you have a throat culture done? What would you say to the Mom who sent her sick/feeling not too bad/contagious kid to school who then got your kids sick? Oh & your kid got the bug worse than hers! And if you want to kinow I am responding from work after having taken off 2 days this week with a sick kid who was feling so well that I didn't know what to do with him. All he wanted to do was play with friends.
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Posted: Thu, Oct 22 2009, 11:08 am Post subject: Re: re: Child is sick, Mommy's at work... WDYD? |
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| onlyme wrote: | | Thank you tovarena for your helpful post. Just wanted to say that ch"v no one is condemning you for sending a not-so-sick child to school! (I, for one, am certainly not!) I haven't been a working mom for too long - dd is only 6 months old - and who knows? I may have to resort to that at some point in the future. I made that comment because right now I don't have the heart to do that, but again, you never know. I'm sorry if I offended anyone (or if I made anyone feel even just a tiny bit guilty). |
No, no. I know you are not condemning. But I was fully expecting the pro forma condemnation that WOHMs get every time they talk about taking a sick child to day care. No offense taken.
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Posted: Thu, Oct 22 2009, 11:25 am Post subject: Re: re: Child is sick, Mommy's at work... WDYD? |
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| amother wrote: | Amother because I don't care to be Once kids are in school & "not so sick" then maybe you can send them but just be aware that you may get a phone call from the school nurse. Also kids with "just runny nose, sneezing & coughing" tend to get fevers towards then end of the day & then you can't send them the next day because they need to be fever free for 24 hours. Most licensed daycares will not let you send a child with anything more than a little cold. BTW did you have a throat culture done? What would you say to the Mom who sent her sick/feeling not too bad/contagious kid to school who then got your kids sick? Oh & your kid got the bug worse than hers! And if you want to kinow I am responding from work after having taken off 2 days this week with a sick kid who was feling so well that I didn't know what to do with him. All he wanted to do was play with friends. |
hehe...this post crossed with my last response. Point proven .
In terms of your comment, we are prepared that we may very well get a phone call in the middle of the day (and we have before). But truly it's easier to get the phone call and leave mid-day than it is to just work the entire day from home. And in regards to being contagious, as most colds, flus, and viruses are contagious before the first sneeze, sniffle, or scratchy throat symptom even surface, I just look at it as a side-effect of needing to have kids in day care. Even in our one little pre-school, I'm certainly not the only mom that has sent kids like that. So yes, my kids have gotten sick from others as well. It's almost unavoidable. If it was that important to me to avoid it, I'd pay the extra to have an at-home nanny.
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