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PostPosted: Wed, Aug 26 2009, 7:34 pm    Post subject: Twilight by Stephanie Meyer
 
Does this book/series live up to all the hype? Someone recommended it to me, since I like fantasy. I'm not really into fads though. So should I use up valuable free time & read it?

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PostPosted: Wed, Aug 26 2009, 7:38 pm    Post subject:
 
No, it's garbage. I've read them all because they're addictive but they're absolute trash. Interested in good teenage vampire stuff? Read Amelia Atwater Rhodes - obviously on a lower reading level, but mazing stuff (start at In the Forests of the Night and go in order). Or Phillip Pullman's Golden Compass trilogy - also a kid's fantasy book, but genius.

(I'm a middle school reading teacher Smile )
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PostPosted: Wed, Aug 26 2009, 7:43 pm    Post subject: re: Twilight by Stephanie Mayer
 
I have read philips pullmans books several times - excellent, but very strongly athiestic, especially if you read all the way to the end.
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PostPosted: Wed, Aug 26 2009, 7:53 pm    Post subject:
 
I've never been able to finish a single book of Philip Pullman's. I find them dry and pretty uninteresting.
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PostPosted: Wed, Aug 26 2009, 7:59 pm    Post subject:
 
really? Well read Amelia Atwater Rhodes - all about vampires. They're fabulous and a bit less out there than Pullman's.
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PostPosted: Wed, Aug 26 2009, 8:00 pm    Post subject:
 
chaylizi wrote:
I've never been able to finish a single book of Philip Pullman's. I find them dry and pretty uninteresting.


his other books apart from the golden compas series are not very good.
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PostPosted: Wed, Aug 26 2009, 8:10 pm    Post subject:
 
I've never read that series. But what did you mean about strongly atheistic. I don't mind if a book doesn't mention a person's belief system at all. I do get a little squirmy though if we start talking about some of the more strongly worded atheistic principles. (a couple of weeks ago, Yesha posted a link on facebook about this bar mitzvah age boy wanted to explore traditional observance, but his mother wasn't comfortable with it. you should have read all the staunch atheistic comments. I was really sorry I read it.)
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PostPosted: Wed, Aug 26 2009, 8:16 pm    Post subject: re: Twilight by Stephanie Mayer
 
I have read twilight and enjoyed it very much. I found it to be a non-stop-wanna-read-it-in-one-shot kind of book. I finished it in one shabbos. thats how I judge how good it is.
if you like romance without the intimate garbage, then you will like this.
the first half is very romantic, and very clean too. which I liked. the second half was more action packed and suspenseful.

the video on the other hand is completely a waste of time. it was terrible.
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PostPosted: Wed, Aug 26 2009, 8:20 pm    Post subject:
 
I hate videos of books. I want to picture the characters in my imagination. Not have someone decide what the character is supposed to look and sound like for me. I have never seen any of my favorite books on film. Not even Little Women (I heard they killed it). Ok, I'll be honest. I hate movies. I grew up with a TV and VCR in my house & I rarely watched anything. They have nothing over books.
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PostPosted: Wed, Aug 26 2009, 8:20 pm    Post subject:
 
Raisin wrote:
chaylizi wrote:
I've never been able to finish a single book of Philip Pullman's. I find them dry and pretty uninteresting.


his other books apart from the golden compas series are not very good.


This is very true.
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PostPosted: Wed, Aug 26 2009, 8:22 pm    Post subject: re: Twilight by Stephanie Mayer
 
I also just read it a few days ago! Addictive! I liked it but did not love it. It felt like dumb writing. I guess I am used to more literary novels, but twilight was not as eloquent as I thought it would be. You still can't put it down, though.
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PostPosted: Wed, Aug 26 2009, 8:22 pm    Post subject:
 
Mimisinger wrote:
No, it's garbage. I've read them all because they're addictive but they're absolute trash. Interested in good teenage vampire stuff? Read Amelia Atwater Rhodes - obviously on a lower reading level, but mazing stuff (start at In the Forests of the Night and go in order). Or Phillip Pullman's Golden Compass trilogy - also a kid's fantasy book, but genius.

(I'm a middle school reading teacher Smile )


I honestly prefer lower reading levels these days. Less violence & intimacy. The adult books I read are generally non fiction.
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PostPosted: Wed, Aug 26 2009, 10:02 pm    Post subject:
 
Mimisinger wrote:

(I'm a middle school reading teacher Smile )

Oooh ... if there isn't one, could we have a running "good books for young readers" thread? I'm always eager to get more ideas for quality stuff. Non-Jewish/secular stuff is A-ok with me, but I do filter (censor) for violence, s-x, and just plain trashiness. (I'm surprised at how even pop culture stuff aimed at 8 year olds has s-xual innuendo sometimes.)

I adored Gordon Korman, Island of Blue Dolphins, John Belairs (although they were scary at the time), The Westing Game ... and I have two kids who are of an age to read (well, one is, one is almost there) that kind of thing. I'm so excited at the idea of getting to know all these books again!

But I know almost nothing except new kids' books. I did read the Twilight books, in a morbid fascination kind of way (I read 9 of the Left Behind books for the same reason, which should tell you abot my tolerance for crud Laughing ) But I would LOVE to hear recommendations.
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PostPosted: Wed, Aug 26 2009, 10:38 pm    Post subject:
 
Sounds good to me - what's your taste? (I always taught in public schools so my tolerance is MUCH higher than others)
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PostPosted: Wed, Aug 26 2009, 10:44 pm    Post subject:
 
I'm pretty open. Overly spooky or scary stuff is out because my oldest is the kind who ALREADY has wild imaginings that the tree outside his window is actually a shadow of a bad guy, etc ... I'm planning on giving him Harry Potter in a couple of years, at least the first book. So fantasy doesn't bother me, and nor do mature themes, by which I don't mean s-x but books that discuss death, loss, or dark periods of history.

I'm especially keen on fiction, because DS #1 (he's 8 but reads the Grade 6 books) isn't in to it on his own. The closest we've gotten him to that is the Magic Treehouse series, which I like, but it's more a way to get history and facts to kids than a real novel. He loved having Stuart Little read to him, and liked Geronimo Stilton lots. My husband wants him to read the Hardy Boys books, but so far no interest.
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PostPosted: Thu, Aug 27 2009, 5:22 am    Post subject:
 
chaylizi wrote:
I've never read that series. But what did you mean about strongly atheistic. I don't mind if a book doesn't mention a person's belief system at all. I do get a little squirmy though if we start talking about some of the more strongly worded atheistic principles. (a couple of weeks ago, Yesha posted a link on facebook about this bar mitzvah age boy wanted to explore traditional observance, but his mother wasn't comfortable with it. you should have read all the staunch atheistic comments. I was really sorry I read it.)


I mean strongly athiestic. Very. google philip pullman and you find out more.

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The story involves fantasy elements such as witches and armoured polar bears, and alludes to a broad range of ideas from fields such as physics, philosophy, theology and spirituality. The trilogy functions in part as a retelling and inversion of John Milton's epic, Paradise Lost; with Pullman commending humanity for what Milton saw as its most tragic failing.[2] The series has drawn criticism from some religious individuals and groups due to its alleged negative portrayal of organized religion.
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PostPosted: Thu, Aug 27 2009, 6:32 am    Post subject: re: Twilight by Stephanie Mayer
 
I found Twilight easy to read, sweet, and unintentionally hilarious.

Whether or not you'll enjoy it will depend on your tolerance for teen romance and whether you can enjoy cheesy books, movies, etc. If you like sappy movies and can tolerate teen drama type stories, you'll probably like it.

Just reading the first 50 pages or so should give you a sense of whether you'll find it addictive or tedious.
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PostPosted: Thu, Aug 27 2009, 9:09 am    Post subject:
 
I am way too sappy for my own good. If real life doesn't always have happy endings, fiction should at least (right?). As for movies, if I watch one it will either be a kid/teen movie or a romantic comedy. Otherwise I have no patience. Thanks Ora!
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PostPosted: Thu, Aug 27 2009, 9:16 am    Post subject:
 
I happen to like a lot of YA Fiction, but didn't care for Twilight.

I started watching True Blood, and it's excellent, so I'm going to read the first book in the series and see if it's any good.
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PostPosted: Thu, Aug 27 2009, 9:24 am    Post subject:
 
Someone also recommended Vampire Academy. It sounds interesting: http://www.amazon.com/Vampire-.....amp;sr=1-2
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