Smoking bochurim

Posted: Tue, Mar 27 2007, 11:37 am Post subject: smoking bochurim

I just saw 2 bochurim slip behind a place on my corner to smoke cigarettes ... I laughed loudly and said ... they will smell the smoke ... you can't hide that!!! Why do they do this ...

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why do they feel the need to hide it?
about how old are they?

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Posted: Tue, Mar 27 2007, 11:42 am Post subject: Re: smoking bochurim

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It's a release for these yeshiva bochurim. And a lot of the time they see their Rebbeim smoking also.

Posted: Tue, Mar 27 2007, 11:47 am Post subject:

they look about my sons age 18ish ... they forgot there's a jew on this block (last one) but I also thought why hide it ... especially cause you can't get the smoke smell out ... they looked up at me ... I've seen worse so ... too bad my son wasn't here ... I'm curious who they were ... yeah why start ... that is werein it all lies ... cause then you're addicted ... my dd started smoking ... but I was told by professionals it was the better of the evils she was trying to stay away from ... so I just believed them ... now she's good mostly ... hard work though ... then she stops and starts ... or starts something worse ... with these guys though it is just shear stupidity ...
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Posted: Tue, Mar 27 2007, 11:48 am Post subject: re: smoking bochurim

come to BP to see how these "bochurim" drive their parents cars when they are here from Israel now..You will say Hagomel-when you get home!

Posted: Tue, Mar 27 2007, 12:10 pm Post subject:

tenny - I bench gomel each day when one of my teens comes back in the driveway ... alive after driving ...

Posted: Tue, Mar 27 2007, 3:20 pm Post subject:

My brother used to come home from kollel all the time when he was single and awaiting a shidduch. It was always his �chavrusah� who smoked like a chimney. 15 years later, he barely gave it up last year. So when I got married and dh stank 3 days later, I asked him �your chavrusah smokes too� ? so he said, how do you know! So I told him, my brother�s also� and that�s it. still hasn�t cracked it though he�s down to 3 a day. Too bad I have a nose like a bloodhound, nothing gets past me, not even my daughters pooop from the other end of the house!

Posted: Tue, Mar 27 2007, 7:00 pm Post subject: Re: smoking bochurim

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What is it about Yeshiva guys smoking? I think my son started smoking in yeshiva in Israel. How do I get him to stop without "nagging" him?

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I consider myself very lucky that ds only picked up the caffeine habit in yeshiva in EY, b/c ppl warned me that many boys start smoking. The hours are so long and they want to stay alert. No one wants to be the first bochur to leave the BM to go to sleep. They teach them plenty of gemara but precious little Rambam, especially not the Shvil Hazahav philosophy and the part about taking care of your health.

B"H ds is a cautious kind of guy and treats coffee like a drug, which it is: used in moderation, only when really necessary, not all the time. I like to think he got this from me, but it's probably just the way he's made.

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Yea, and I forgot to mention that besides smoking, my son also picked up the caffeine habit in Israel. He's constantly with the coffee and cigarettes. It's a shame that yeshivas don't teach these boys about health.

Posted: Sun, Mar 29 2009, 11:52 am Post subject:

hm ... they're probably addicted by now and can't imagine their families not knowing they smoke ...

Posted: Sun, Mar 29 2009, 11:57 am Post subject:

I hate the idea how in many yeshivos smoking is acceptable. in seminary, we actually brought up this topic with one of our rebbeim, he said the same thing louche said, it is to keep up their concentration and it also acts as a stress reliever. since many yeshivos dont encourage playing sports as an outlet (which is HEALTHY, btw) they let them smoke, which causes lifetime addiction and blackened lungs. how in the world can they justify this?????????????

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When we were dating, I asked DH straight out.
He said that he has one every once in a while.
I am very sensitive to any smelll, and will pick it up, even if he's been sitting near someone who does.
But as he said he is def. a "social smoker".
He could be standing with a group of friends and not be tempted.
Sometimes, when were driving far together, and I see he's really tired, Ill tell him he can treat himself to one.
He's fine with that.

Posted: Sun, Mar 29 2009, 4:52 pm Post subject:

I've also noticed that an important factor is that a lot of them dont even know the health risks. Even my uncle, who used to be a doctor, would not tell his sons how dangerous it is, after I told them it's really bad for your health. You could see he knows it is, but kinda ignored the question, since it is so excepted.
Interestingly enough, in the hesder world it isnt excepted at all and here in yeshive you wont see anyone smoking, ever!
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A family member was very into a shidduch but dropped it when the boy was seen smoking. In my family it is UNACCEPTABLE. (B"H they all keep to the rule)